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Vorhex Angel features both members of JEFF The Brotherhood and longtime collaborator Kunal Prakash. Not much has been revealed about Vorhex Angel in terms of intentions or influences. They have no social media presence. Sonically, they cover a range: There’s the damaged, and then there is the even more damaged. In one way or another, all of the music takes cues from a large trove of Japanese noise rock—Les Rallizes Dénudés, High Rise, White Heaven—and uses those influences as a jumping off point for improvisation. Is Vorhex Angel a jam band? Maybe if you swap out the Allman Brothers for Acid Mothers Temple. What we do know: These are lifers fully off the leash, unburdened by the structures of industry, making music as free as a seraphic being floating above a stack of amps in a dive bar.
Their latest record, Drain, is out now on Soul Selects.

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Primitive Ring consists of Bert Hoover (Hooveriii, Groop), Jon Modaff (Hooveriii, Groop, Frankie and the Witch Fingers), and Charles Moothart (Fuzz, GØGGS). The three LA based musicians found each other in a collective state of high functioning de evolution, and collectively agreed to bend the knee to the primal instincts of melody and rhythm.
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Vorhex Angel and Primitive Ring Chat About Drain

Horse Lords is a band founded in Baltimore in 2010, consisting of Owen Gardner (guitar), Max Eilbacher (bass), Sam Haberman (drums), Andrew Bernstein (alto saxophone/percussion). Their latest record, Demand to Be Taken to Heaven Alive!, is out now on RVNG Intl.
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Mood Board: Horse Lords’ Demand to Be Taken to Heaven Alive!

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The Album Leaf has been making its mark as a soft-spoken innovator steadily and surely since 1999. It&#8217;s clear mastermind Jimmy LaValle is unafraid of thinking outside the box, both as an individual artist and within the larger scope of modern music.
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Curls Ultra is an underground post groovy rock band and activist network based in America. The band is known for their exhilarating live shows which feature Boredoms-esque noise jams, Can-inspired kosmiche grooves, and tender ballads depicting the degradation of the American psyche. They have performed at Pitchfork Music Festival, toured across multiple countries and opened for or collaborated with Tame Impala, Ariel Pink, Frank Hurricane, Sunburned Hand Of The Man, Wild Pink, Salesforce Child, and most recently Tim Heidecker’s Dekkar.
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Mood Board: Curls Ultra’s American Blood

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CS Cleaners is an art punk band based in Brooklyn. Their latest record, What’s This?, is out June 26, 2026 on Wharf Cat.

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Lathe of Heaven is a post-punk/new wave band from Brooklyn. Their latest record, Aurora, is out now on Sacred Bones. 
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