Talkhouse Podcast

"Life is long—do what you love."

 "For me personally, taking a super long time on a record... I make it worse, not better."

On punk rock pasts, chord progressions, battle of the bands, and more.

 "Early rap or early punk and all that stuff is exciting because no one's in it for the money."

 "And it's just like, because I am trying to be the best man I actually can be, it, it will show up in my music."

On-stage banter, the proper joy/pain ratio, and songs that are like throw-up.

"You guys were The Stooges for me... You were KISS. You were everything."

 "People in the same room is a balm and a medicine and an antidepressant and an understanding that we are still fucking human."

A pop-punk lifer chats with an understated songwriter

From our archives: The two music legends share a rich and fascinating conversation backstage at Desert Daze.

"We're in the last era of bullshit."

"This is the closest thing we have to magic outside of, like, Bluetooth."