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Jonathan Lisecki (Gayby) Talks with Sarah Gertrude Shapiro (UnREAL) for The Talkhouse Film Podcast

The creator of the best new TV show of the summer chats about her (long-gestating) overnight success.

On this latest episode of the Talkhouse Film podcast, Gayby's writer-director Jonathan Lisecki talks about the best new TV show of the summer, UnREAL, with Sarah Gertrude Shapiro, its co-creator, writer and supervising producer. The pair discuss Shapiro's background, her inspirations, how she turned an award-winning short film into a hit TV show in record time, getting over "the Lifetime of it all," and much more. For more filmmakers talking film and TV, visit Talkhouse Film at talkhouse.com/film.

The music featured in the podcast is as follows:
1. Intro / outro underscore: “Plastic Man vs. The Giant Red Phase Of The Sun” – Iced Ink

Episode recorded by Jonathan Lisecki and edited by Elia Einhorn

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