John Cale: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE with Ratso

The Jokermen welcome friend of the show Ratso Sloman back to the program for a wide-ranging conversation about his 1985 collaboration with John Cale, Artificial Intelligence, as well as Bill Clinton, Roger McGuinn, Mickey Mantle, Leonard Cohen, Jonathan Lethem, Tuli Kupferberg, Jonathan Demme, the Rosicrucians, the Israeli Mossad, and Shrek.

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