Note: this podcast contains explicit content. Legendary filmmaker Caveh Zahedi speaks with Jack about their complicated mentor-mentee relationship, seeking revenge through art, and his unique views on morality. Check out Caveh&#8217;s The Show About the Show, wherever you can find it.

8. Morality (Caveh Zahedi)

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